Sports are so much fun because they can always teach you something, even when you’re not expecting it.
The early college football games were way better than the late games on Saturday, so I found myself drifting over towards the National League Championship Series as the Braves took on the Dodgers. I happened to tune in right as the game went to the bottom of the fourth inning tied at 1-1.
The Dodgers got two outs relatively quickly, but then LA pitcher Walker Buehler walked Atlanta catcher Travis d’Arnaud. Next, Atlanta manager Brian Snitker decided to pinch hit for his pitcher with Ehire Adrianza, who broke his bat but managed to keep it fair for a double. Eddie Rosario then had the biggest hit of the game as he homered off of Buehler after fouling off a couple of nasty pitches with two strikes.
Why do I bring this up?
Well, it got me thinking of a concept in baseball analytics called Base Runs. The idea is that sometimes baseball teams string together hits in a way that is purely luck-based and that the luck defines the outcome.
Just think about it for a minute. What if Buehler had given up the home run to d’Arnaud, then walked Adrianza and given up the double to Rosaria. That would have resulted in only one run for the Braves rather than the three that put the Dodgers on their heels.
The same thing can happen in football, and that’s particularly true if you look at this year’s Florida Gators.
Analytics vs. Results Disconnect
You’re not going to get me to argue that a 4-3 record is acceptable for any Florida Gators team. Analytics are important, but you have to convert those numbers into wins.
However, I do think analytics are important when we’re trying to assess the direction of the program. I’ve been asked multiple times by various fans whether I still support Dan Mullen as the head coach, and I only know one way to answer that question: look at the numbers.
And what the numbers say is that there is a major disconnect between Florida’s record and the overall team performance. That may be of little comfort to those who expected an SEC Championship this year, but it should point towards better days ahead.
For example, in the simplest of measures, Florida has outscored its opponents this year by a 241-148 margin. That typically translates into a winning percentage of 73%, or 5.1 wins. That means that Florida has underperformed its scoring differential by more than a win.
If we look at efficiency-based metrics, Florida grades out really well. The Gators rank 7th in ESPN’s FPI. They rank 5th in Bill Connelly’s SP+ and 8th in Brian Fremeau’s FEI ratings. And then there’s this:
📊Opponent Adjusted EPA/play – Wk 7
▫️Bama joining OSU & UGA
▫️Pitt: not just for sickos
▫️UF w/ 3 Ls but all >50% win probability 🤦♂️
▫️CFB is more fun when the middle class is deep
▫️OU w huge jump in Off EPA
▫️God Bless Purdue pic.twitter.com/rwXBzoR2hd— Bud Davis (@JBudDavis) October 17, 2021
This is prior to Week 8, but the Gators’ Expected Points Added (EPA) didn’t change during the bye week. The reality is that the Gators have been one of the better teams in the country when you look at both their offensive and defensive performances overall.
On offense, this is in large part driven by their ability to run the ball, where even after a poor performance against LSU, the Gators still rank third in yards per attempt. That stat tanked on the defensive side of the ball (to 51st) after getting dominated on the ground against the Tigers, but the Gators still rank 23rd in that category coming into the game against Georgia.
So what to make of all this? I think it suggests that the Gators are capable of being a really good team. I think it also suggests that they have been somewhat unlucky to lose three games thus far.
Better to be lucky than good
The first place to start when you’re talking about luck is one-score games. Typically, those games are 50/50 propositions.
We experienced this from 2015-2017 where Jim McElwain had some sort of magic fairy dust as the Gators started 9-1 in one-score games before the bottom fell out in 2017 against Texas A&M and LSU. The issue with McElwain’s teams it that the 9-1 record in close games hid what anybody watching those teams knew in 2015 and 2016: they were decidedly average.
You see that when you look at many of the same analytic rankings I mentioned earlier, but we’ll cite ESPN FPI here for brevity. The 2015 Gators ranked 29th in the FPI but went 5-1 in one-score games. That 10-4 record could have easily been 7-5 without an SEC East banner had they gone 3-3 in those games rather than 5-1 (remember, that team beat Vandy 9-7, FAU 20-14 and East Carolina 31-24).
The 2016 team was a little bit better, ranking 22nd in the FPI. But again, the Gators were 2-0 in one-score games, escaping Vanderbilt 13-6 and LSU 16-10 on a goal-line stop. How much different does that season feel if Darrius Guice isn’t stopped at the one-yard line?
The Gators then fell to 50th in the FPI rankings in 2017, and went 2-3 in one-score games, which facilitated McElwain’s departure.
So why do I bring this up? Well, Florida has been a much better team under Dan Mullen thus far, but still had some fairy dust early on. The 2018 Gators ranked 11th in the FPI, but still had some significant success in one-score games (3-0).
They beat up LSU in the 27-19 win in the Swamp, but Mississippi State could have easily won in Mullen’s return to Starkville and the 35-31 win over South Carolina was almost out of reach before a pretty incredible comeback.
The 11-2 Gators in 2019 were legit. They ranked 9th in the FPI but also went 3-1 in one-score games (Miami, Kentucky, Georgia and Virginia). The offensive efficiency went way up with Kyle Trask at QB, which is why the FPI had them ranked higher.
Last season, Florida was ranked 11th in the FPI yet again. This time, the Gators weren’t lucky, going 0-3 in one-score games (Texas A&M, LSU and Alabama), which is part of what led to the 8-4 overall record.
And now we have this year, where the Gators are ranked 7th in the FPI but are 4-3 after going 0-3 in one score games (Alabama, Kentucky and LSU) yet again.
Dan Mullen was excoriated for pointing out that his team outgained Kentucky in the Gators loss, but upon closer inspection, he wasn’t wrong about that. If you look at collegefootballdata.com, these are the post-game win expectancies for the Gators based on the efficiency metrics for each game.
- FAU – 99%
- USF – 100%
- Alabama – 91%
- Tennessee – 99%
- Kentucky – 60%
- Vanderbilt – 100%
- LSU – 7%
The Gators got dominated by the Tigers. But other than that, they should probably have won the rest of their games with the Kentucky game being close to a toss-up.
Again, I know this doesn’t make anybody feel better about 4-3, but it should make fans feel much about what’s coming in 2022. The analytics say that this Gators team is just as good as the 2018, 2019 or 2020 teams were.
So what in the heck is happening then?
All that is great, but the Gators are still 4-3. What is going on?
Well, the first place to look is turnovers. It’s no secret this has been a sore spot for the Gators, as they have had at least one interception in every game thus far. But it’s a stat related to interceptions that I want to examine, as I think that tells an interesting story.
According to SEC Stat Cat, Kyle Trask had an interceptable percentage (number of throws that could have been intercepted) of 7.78 percent. However, the opposition only intercepted 1.83 percent of his throws. The result is that only 23 percent of his throws that could have been picked were actually picked.
If we look at both Anthony Richardson and Emory Jones this year, 9.9 percent of their throws are considered interceptable balls by Stat Cat’s metrics. However, 5.6 percent of their total throws have actually been intercepted, meaning 57 percent of the throws that could have been intercepted have turned into interceptions.
That really isn’t a sustainable rate. Trask in 2019 had a 7.63% interceptable rate with a 1.98% intercepted rate. Feleipe Franks in 2018 had a 6.02% interceptable rate with a 2.01% intercepted rate. Throws are inaccurate all the time, with balls either sailing over the receiver, tipping off the receiver’s hands or getting thrown behind the receiver. Usually, those throws fall harmlessly to the ground. That just hasn’t been the case for the Gators in 2021.
The other thing to consider is the inconsistency of this team. That’s obvious when you think about how they lost the three games they did.
Against Alabama, Florida couldn’t get out of its own way in the first quarter against Alabama and then dominated the second quarter and a large chunk of the second half. It took a blocked field goal returned for a touchdown to turn the game against Kentucky, but the Gators (averaging 34.4 point per game) were only able to score 13. And against LSU, when the offense finally got things going and put up 42, the defense couldn’t stop a counter and got run out of the building by perhaps the worst rush offense in the SEC.
This goes to my Base Runs commentary earlier. Had the Braves gotten the Rosario home run first, the Dodgers tie that game at two. Had the Gators given up the blocked field goal against Alabama or had all of the false start penalties against LSU, they win the other games. It’s only been a perfect confluence of events – with a failure in one aspect of the game in each – that has cost the Gators all three.
That inconsistency shows up best at the QB position. Emory Jones has a QB Rating of 138.6, which isn’t too far off of what Feleipe Franks had in 2018 (143.4). Say what you will about Franks, but he was remarkably consistent, good or bad.
Franks’ QB rating was terrible (108.1, 110.1, and 73.0) in the Gators three losses. He was bad against LSU even though Florida got that win. Every other game, his QB Rating was above 124.
Jones has been all over the map. He has QB ratings of 219 and 167 against Vanderbilt and Tennessee. But he has QB Ratings of 96 and 116 against FAU and Alabama. You just never know what you’re going to get, which means that you’re apt to be able to put up 40 points, but you’re also apt to only be able to put up 13.
I wrote an article about Jones and QB Rating during the offseason. The point was that Dan Mullen’s QBs have historically supplied something in the running game, and that the offense’s ability to score would come down to QB Rating. Here’s the chart from that article.
If you combine Jones’ and Richardson’s stats, you get a combined QB Rating of 144.8 for both of them. Using the chart above, that should translate to approximately 34 points per game. Florida is at 34.4, or exactly where we would think they should be based on QB performance.
If we do the same thing with the defense, we get a QB Rating of 119.7 for the season, which should translate to about 27 points per game, rather than the 21.1 the Gators have surrendered.
And therein lies where I think the disconnect is coming from. This defense has feasted on poor offenses (two cupcakes, Vandy, Kentucky) and got lucky to not get lit up by Tennessee. Vanderbilt could have easily put up 13 points in the first half if not for its own issues, and for much of the year it has felt like the defense is teetering on the edge of getting run out of the building. LSU just finally did it.
Against Alabama, Tennessee and LSU, the Gators have surrendered QB Ratings of 148.7, 144.2 and 146.1. Against USF, Kentucky and Vanderbilt, the Gators have surrendered QB Ratings of 102.6, 91.8 and 77.1. Combine that with a stunning lack of turnovers (6 in 7 games), and it’s the same old Todd Grantham story: play well against overmatched opponents and then get torched by good offenses.
Even still, there were opportunities for the defense to make a play in each game thus far that could have turned the game.
Who can forget this one? Florida had Alabama on the ropes, and if Brenton Cox intercepts this one, he might have taken it the other direction for a touchdown. Certainly, the way Florida was dominating up-front, it would have given the Gators an opportunity to take the lead. Instead, Alabama punched the ball in for a touchdown later in the drive to go up 28-16.
And while it’s easy to forget, Florida had Kentucky on the ropes, ready for a knockout blow after Tre’Vez Johnson intercepted Will Levis and returned the ball to the Kentucky 10-yard line with the Gators up 10-7.
But Antonio Valentino (highlighted) was penalized for an illegal crack back block (correctly) well away from the play. Not only was it unnecessary, but it is something that has been an area of emphasis for officials over the past couple of years. This is what led to the ball being moved backwards to a place where Florida had to attempt a long field goal…..and we know what happened to that.
And even against LSU, the defense had a chance early when the Tigers were on the ropes, already down 6-0 and doubting themselves.
This is a terrible decision by LSU QB Max Johnson. His receiver is double bracketed, but he throws it because he is under heavy pressure from Princely Umanmielen. At worst, this should be incomplete. At best, Jeremiah Moon intercepts the ball and Florida ends the first quarter with a 6-0 lead, the ball and all of the momentum.
Instead, two plays into the second quarter, LSU hit an 18-yard run on a counter and the Tigers were ahead 7-6 and Florida was in a dog fight.
Recruiting Woes
I’m not a big fan of Dan Mullen’s recruiting, and have made no secret of that fact going all the way back to his 2019 class before he ever coached a game. One statement from that article seems particularly relevant given the current circumstances Florida finds itself in.
“I’ve learned my lesson from the McElwain era. Yes, there are outliers who win championships (Clemson, Auburn) but those teams have transcendent QBs (Watson, Newton). Unless Joe Burrow is coming to Gainesville, I don’t see a transcendent QB on the roster.”
You could make the argument back in 2018 that Mullen just needed to show what he could do on the field and the recruits would come. I didn’t agree with that assessment at the time and have been proven correct on that point, as Mullen has recruited at the exact same level every year he’s been in Gainesville.
But I also think it’s hard to blame this season’s results specifically on talent. After all, while LSU is 5th in the 247Sports roster rankings, about half of its team was missing last weekend. And while Alabama ranks first, Kentucky is ranked 31st overall, well behind the 7th ranked Gators.
To me, the issue is what Florida is doing with the talent it does have. Look at the list of Gators with the highest overall rankings and tell me who is really a difference maker? Justin Shorter is the highest ranked player. He’s been average thus far.
Then comes Gervon Dexter (good, but not dominant), Demarkcus Bowman (who?), Brenton Cox (disappointing), Lorenzo Lingard (who, part two). It’s not until you get to Jason Marshall and Kaiir Elam that you really get to a high level of production, but then it’s hit or miss with a lot of production coming from lower ranked players.
Would I like to see recruiting get better? Absolutely.
But to expect that to happen now – under this regime – is pretty much fruitless. They have a way of doing things that includes finishing fourth or fifth in the SEC in recruiting. I think that’s short-sighted, and a really tough way of doing things.
But if you’re going to do things that way, you have to get your high-end talent to perform. Thus far, that’s been a struggle.
Takeaway
So I started this by talking about what fans are asking me: should Florida move on from Dan Mullen?
It’s an interesting question, as I can see all sides of the argument. You’re never going to have problems scoring points with Mullen in charge, but you’re also going to have all of your talent hit at the exact same time to catch that “lightning in a bottle” type season that leads to a championship.
I think a lot of Gators fans think Florida missed that window last year, with Kyle Trask and an explosive offense clearly hampered by a porous defense. But I think they may be missing what looks to be a really good team in 2022.
Consider what I said in the recruiting section above. It is clear that to be an outlier, you have to hit on a transcendent QB. I don’t know about you, but Mullen looks like he may have done just that with Anthony Richardson, who has NFL personnel folks talking about how he looks like the real deal.
And then take a look at the defense. Todd Grantham’s contract runs out after this year, and if he is brought back, I’ll storm the Swamp with pitchforks in solidarity with you all.
But look at Grantham’s personnel this year. The only players from the 2018 and 2019 recruiting classes who are starters are Kaiir Elam and Mohamoud Diabate. That’s terrible considering the 2019 class was supposed to be the “bump” class that took the Gators forward into the Mullen era.
But look at the young players who are getting major playing time this year and will be back in 2022.
- Gervon Dexter (5-star) – Starter
- Rashad Torrence (4-star) – Starter
- Avery Helm (4-star) – Starter
- Mordecai McDaniel (4-star) – Major minutes as backup
- Tre’Vez Johnson (3-star) – Starter
- Jason Marshall (5-star) – Starter
- Desmond Watson (3-star) – Major minutes as backup
Elam is probably off to the NFL, but if Diabate, Cox and Ventrell Miller come back with a new defensive coordinator, you’re looking at a defense that should be decent, if not nasty.
We don’t have to look too far into the distance to find a team that was able to put a season like that together. Ed Orgeron took over LSU in September of 2016. Those Tigers went 8-4 but finished 6th in the ESPN FPI. In 2017, they finished 9-4 and 14th in the FPI. In 2018, they brought in my favorite transfer QB, but finished 17th in the FPI despite going 10-3.
But that 2018 season is interesting now that we know what was coming in 2019. LSU was incredibly inconsistent, beating Auburn 22-21 and Georgia 36-16 but losing to Texas A&M in a 74-72 thriller that helped change the overtime rules. I remember rooting for them against the “National Champion” UCF in the Fiesta Bowl and wondering how anyone could enjoy rooting for a team that was so Jekyl and Hyde as they dominated the Knights but couldn’t put them away.
Burrow wasn’t just inconsistent, but really downright bad for the first 9 games of the season. But then something happened after the Tigers got dominated by Alabama. Some sort of light turned on against Arkansas and he finished the season with QB ratings of 165.1, 187.1, 151.5 and 192.0 and threw 10 TDs versus 1 INT (after having 6 TDs and 4 INTs in the first nine games).
In other words, nobody knew it yet, but LSU had found their elite QB.
So that’s my answer to the Mullen question. I think he has the rest of this season and this offseason to train Anthony Richardson to be his elite signal caller in 2022. I think he has to hit on whomever he decides to bring in at defensive coordinator.
Those people who are complaining about his recruiting now after not complaining about it previously are disingenuous. From the start, this was always a question of whether Mullen could hit on a QB good enough to overcome some of his roster limitations compared to Georgia and Alabama.
This program is exactly what we’d expect based on the recruiting thus far. It’s a top-10 program that needs a jolt from a special talent to push it over the top.
The 2021 Gators are absolutely disappointing, but they are not McElwain 2017 (50th in FPI) or even Muschamp 2013 (36th) or 2014 (22nd) bad. Those programs were heading in the wrong direction, but the analytics suggest this is more a year where everything that could go wrong has gone wrong rather than a program in decline.
And neither of those guys had Anthony Richardson waiting in the wings.
John
If AR-15 is getting the bulk of the snaps and we are competitive with UGA and win out, Mullen is fine. If he sticks with EJ and we get blown out and we get beat by an improving FSU team, he’s got to go.
John M Bland
Analytics are great but the truth is, if we want to continue being a MSU we should keep Mullen. You bring up Trask but forget it was Mullen that kept him on the bench until forced to bring him in. You bring up AR, but it’s Mullen that was too stupid to start him in the first place and still has not committed to starting him. You bring up Grantham and Mullen is the one that hired him and pushed a raise for him. You bring up recruiting, and it’s still a fact the man can’t recruit. I could go on, but it tiresome to see someone with the analytical mind that you have refuse to call for his firing. You’re starting to sound like Dooley who never met a loser he didn’t like and defend.
Shane Womack
All very valid points. Mullen has made some bad decisions by leaving Trask and Richardson on the bench. TG should have been fired last year or never hired in the first place. Mullen really needs to align himself with a DC that can recruit.
Robert
Willie Taggart would start AR.
John M Bland
Any normal person that has seen both play knows that EJ can’t carry AR’s jock. Anything EJ can do, AR can do better. However, the great QB whisperer can’t seem to see it.
g8trDad3
Imagine 2020 with our defense giving up 7-10 points less per game. Actually, imagine the same for 2021. I am most disappointed this year that the defense did not improve. Never a question of Mullen’s offense. Doesn’t matter if AR15 and offense score 40 per game if the D does not improve. I hope you are right, Will, that we have hope for 2022.
carl v waters
AR has been the choice from game #2 . He is a great athlete and a leader!
Jaguar
I agree that the ball hasn’t bounced our way but you wrote just a few weeks ago that that is a result of Mullen’s coaching policy.
The way he coaches leaves little room for error in other words. So he’s not helping himself.
If Grantham was gone last year and you actually started the best player instead of the most senior guy – if just those two things were different – we may very well be undefeated going into Jacksonville.
So I don’t know man. I read this and it seems like a defense of Mullen but I think you’d agree that it’s his own fault. He’s not stacking the deck in his favor.
Duece
I see a lot of “if” this or “if” that. “If” means it could possibly happen. The 3 losses HAVE happened, meaning they are fact. Analytics like you’re talking about is simply gambling, you can’t predict the future, and 2022 could be awful. What if AR transfers, as do many others, you didn’t put that “if” in your little scenario I see. I think Mullen is very very average at best, and if we have to win championships by lucking into a great QB, then his way of winning is garbage. Domination in recruiting, development and on-field coaching is the only way to consistently win championships.
Gatormiami+(+in+AZ)
It’s likely that, even if the Gators play well vs UGA, that Dan will play enough to blow this one too. Then there’s next season. Who is to say that EJ isn’t the starter in 22 a la the Franks vs Trask debacle?
Remember what AR said when asked about his future at Florida? ” I’m a Gator NOW!” There is a good chance he leaves unless Mullen’s attitude changes. He has been constantly badmouthed by the HC to build up EJ.
Darrick Taylor
I understand that people are making comments about what a bad coach Mullen is, but this article is kind of beside the point. He is a very good X’s and O’s coach. No one who is not an internet troll thinks otherwise But he has serious limitations as a program manager, and unless he makes changes that so far he has shown no evidence he is willing to make, he is not a championship level coach in my opinion. That’s no criticism. There aren’t many out there. But at this point, I think Mullen is better suited to a program like MSU, or another program where they don’t expect you to win and compete for titles. And yes, you might fall into another McElwain in trying to find that championship coach, but I am willing to risk that, since I am not willing to settle for less at UF. I don’t think much is going to change, and that lack of hope for further improvement is what is driving all the talk about getting rid of Mullen. It’s sad, but with Mullen, I am basically in the same place as with Mike White, for different reasons: I am just waiting for the next thing, because I just don’t think this is going to work out the way everyone wanted.
In any case, thank you for all your efforts. Go Gators!
Wesley
Totally agree with Darrick’s takes. Dan is decent, and to Will’s point he is better than McElwain and Muschamp, but is that good enough for Florida and its fans? Are those two coaches the bar we use to measure if a coach is good? Are we happy settling for halfway-decent if it prevents us from consistent championship aspirations?
The most frustrating part is that Mullen says he wants to win more than anyone, but it seems like he wants to do it HIS WAY more than he wants to win, or else he would be able to make these difficult decisions. This includes seniority dictating playing time, keeping coaches who don’t recruit, and choosing work-life balance over hard-fought recruiting wins.
When he came here with Urban in ’05 they realized they didn’t have all the answers after that LSU loss and they made adjustments after the bye that ultimately led to finishing strong and catalyzing the great ’06 recruiting class. Maybe they would have gotten similar recruiting results regardless, but the point remains that they acknowledged a weakness with their philosophy and made a change from the way they wanted to do things towards something that gave them a chance to be successful. At this point, it seems like the adjusting was all because of Urban, not Dan, because Mullen doesn’t seem willing to adjust from his way towards something more conducive to winning championships.
Even without changes, Mullen clears the McElwain/Muschamp bars, but life is short, and I think Florida deserves better and should not settle for “meh” coaching. If he acknowledges some flaws and makes changes, I’m all for giving him a longer leash. If he doesn’t, let’s roll the dice again.
Go Gators!
Chris
As I have commented recently, I believe Mullen is an able offensive coordinator and developer of quarterbacks. However, is he a leader of a team of young men? Is he a leader capable of successfully recruiting, developing, and engaging a team to start, endure, and finish a season as champions? In his career he has tasted a National Championship as a staffer. He has yet to do it as a head coach of a football program. To borrow a phrase from the great General James A. Van Fleet, does he have “THE WILL TO WIN”?
PMB-BTR
“Those people who are complaining about his recruiting now after not complaining about it previously are disingenuous.”
Wow, strong language. I was one of those not complaining about his recruiting when CDM showed up but complain now. I had that chimeric of all emotions back then: Hope. I hoped that CDMs average recruiting was simply because he was recruiting to an average, at best, Mississippi State team. I had hope that the cachet of Florida would go a long way towards CDM getting the better 4-5 star players simply because Florida naturally attracts the better players’ attention on the recruiting trail. I had hope the “stars” (pun intended) would align and we would consistently be at or near the top in recruiting.
Of course my hopes have been dashed, and now, adding insult to injury, I am labeled disingenuous?
Will you go the extra Mile(s) and clarify your statement regarding the disingenuousness of fans with now forlorn hopes?
Fred Gibbons
Will;
Interesting information and insights!
I believe the root cause of the malaise Gator Nation is facing is one Scott Strickland. He hired MW, CDM, and CN. As Parcells said, you are what your record says you are! We have become the panacea of mediocrity in the SEC.
White can neither coach nor recruit. CDM is a great OC, but lacks program leadership skills to win it all! And nothing whatsoever needs to be said re: CN; his behavior speaks for itself.
Ed O was terminated for egregious behavior on the surface, but was not a great program leader and lost all control. He was ‘lucky’ as you have eloquently described with Burrow, Chase, et al and captured lightning in a bottle.
We are suffering from the curse of Urban Meyer, who left his ship in tatters; having caught ‘lightning in a bottle’ for 3 years – while failing to address the massive character issues that lurked beneath the surface. What goes around comes around…..
And here we are in 2021 with Gator Nation in tatters led by an AD who has failed to bring able and willing executive leaders to either football, mens and womens basketball. If we’re hoping he will find a gem, just look at who he replaced CN with – the assistant who enabled the very behavior CN was asked to leave for. That is a colossal failure of leadership at the CEO level.
SS has to go first and foremost!
Go Gators!
John M Bland
I would take Urbs every day of the week and twice on Sunday. He’s a proven winner and even when he left, the teams was stacked with talent compared to since. You’re talking like so many other jilted lovers.
Lane Train 2022 CHOO! CHOO!
John,
Urban was great from 2005-2009, but lost his edge in 2010. He did well in the Big 10 because Ohio State is currently miles ahead of all the other programs he played, and they gave him the resources to do it.
It’s important to remember that when Urban first came to UF, Saban was not at Alabama , and Kirby was not at Georgia. The SEC was still a tough conference, but it isn’t what it is today with those two football recruiting machines.
If Urban came back, could he do well? Sure, it’s possible. He is a great coach at the college level. But with the competition of Bama, Georgia, Texas A & M (with Jimbo who is trying to replicate the Saban model there), LSU, and the upcoming additions of OU and Texas, it is very possible that we’ll get 2010 Urban rather than the Urban of 2005-2009.
Let’s not forget, the Urban of 2010 not only lost to Alabama, LSU, & Jimbo at FSU, he also lost to former Gator Great Steve Spurrier’s South Carolina squad, and current Gator not-so-Great Dan Mullen’s Miss State.
Yea, Dan Mullen beat Urban at the Swamp! The same Dan Mullen who lost to Kentucky twice, the same Dan Mullen who lost to Ed Orgeron’s JV squad two years straight. The same Dan Mullen that’s 2-6 in last 8 games against P5 opponents, the only two wins being Tennessee & Vandy. The same Dan Mullen whose recruiting class for 2022 is ranked 35 behind Kentucky, South Carolina, Missouri, Stanford, and Virginia Tech.
Dan MacElwain, I mean Mullen, is arguably going to end up with a worse legacy than Muschamp and MacElwain st the rate he’s going. AND YET (as MacElwain used to always say) he beat Urban Meyer last time Urban was at the Swamp.
The point of this trip down Memory Lane? Urban was great here, and I’ll always be grateful for what he did, but instead of trying to recapture the glory of the past, it’s time to create a new future. And that future is none other than LANE KIFFIN.
ALL ABOARD THE LANE TRAIN! CHOO! CHOO!
Bring Kiffin to LANEsville!
Lane Kiffin 2022
Lane Train CHOO! CHOO!
John,
Urban was great from 2005-2009, but lost his edge in 2010. He did well in the Big 10 because Ohio State is currently miles ahead of all the other programs he played, and they gave him the resources to do it.
It’s important to remember that when Urban first came to UF, Saban was not at Alabama , and Kirby was not at Georgia. The SEC was still a tough conference, but it isn’t what it is today with those two football recruiting machines.
If Urban came back, could he do well? Sure, it’s possible. He is a great coach at the college level. But with the competition of Bama, Georgia, Texas A & M (with Jimbo who is trying to replicate the Saban model there), LSU, and the upcoming additions of OU and Texas, it is very possible that we’ll get 2010 Urban rather than the Urban of 2005-2009.
Let’s not forget, the Urban of 2010 not only lost to Alabama, LSU, & Jimbo at FSU, he also lost to former Gator Great Steve Spurrier’s South Carolina squad, and current Gator not-so-Great Dan Mullen’s Miss State.
Yea, Dan Mullen beat Urban at the Swamp! The same Dan Mullen who lost to Kentucky twice, the same Dan Mullen who lost to Ed Orgeron’s JV squad two years straight. The same Dan Mullen that’s 2-6 in last 8 games against P5 opponents, the only two wins being Tennessee & Vandy. The same Dan Mullen whose recruiting class for 2022 is ranked 35 behind Kentucky, South Carolina, Missouri, Stanford, and Virginia Tech.
Dan MacElwain, I mean Mullen, is arguably going to end up with a worse legacy than Muschamp and MacElwain st the rate he’s going. AND YET (as MacElwain used to always say) he beat Urban Meyer last time Urban was at the Swamp.
The point of this trip down Memory Lane? Urban was great here, and I’ll always be grateful for what he did, but instead of trying to recapture the glory of the past, it’s time to create a new future. And that future is none other than LANE KIFFIN.
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Dan is done. You can see it in his eyes. You can hear it in his voice while he makes excuses in post-game press conferences. He’s blaming injuries now to explain why he needs to keep EJ as the starter. I’m surprised he didn’t blame the wind at the LSU game to make an excuse for the loss.
The recruiting class has crumbled, and is continuing to crumble into dust… just like the hopes and dreams of all Gator Nation that this staff will build their beloved Florida Gators into an elite program that competes for national titles.
Remember that movie “15 Years a Slave”? Well Dan’s movie is called “15 Years a Coach” and none of the scenes involving winning any championships, not even a conference championship.
Dan, even at his best, would have never brought a title to Gainesville. What’s worse is he’s no longer at his best, perhaps he is upset that the NFL doesn’t want him, and is only going through the motions until he gets canned. Since he’s best buddies with Scott Stricklin, it may be a while before that happens.
Mullen clearly doesn’t want to be here anymore, and the only reason why he hasn’t resigned or made up fake “death threats” is he’s getting paid $7.6 million a year to go 6-6/7-5 in the SEC East.
It is time to move on. Hopefully after Stricklin is stricken from the records as AD for his abhorrent handling of the Cam Newbauer situation, Mullen will realize that the grift is up, and will bail out of town as quick as possible (Washington State would be a great landing spot for him, and maybe Spencer Rattler could follow him there through the portal — those two narcissistic, soft, overrated losers deserve each other).
Hopefully this all unfolds within the next 3-4 weeks so the new AD can declare the End of an Error, and bring Gator Football back to life by hiring none other than LANE KIFFIN to bring the Gators back to the top!
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Kathryn
You mention one score games as if whoever wins is just lucky and over time the games even out. I have always thought that one score games are generally won by the coach who makes the best decisions. Mullen is often portrayed as a genius, and he may well be when he tries. But Mullen checks out of games he is not interested in just like he appears to check out on recruiting when it’s just too much work. Urban taught that special teams were important. Mullen thinks they are useless. I could coach special teams better then UF currently does. Special teams are actually coached worse the our defense. I have no hope for Mullen unless Mullen decides to actually be a Gator again. Mullen has to make recruiting a priority with UF spending at least as much as Georgia on it. Mullen has to find an excellent Special Teams coordinator and an excellent Defensive coordinator. Mullen has to stop being stubborn, maybe rehire the old QB coach, and play the best QB. Either Mullen is an idiot, which is a possibility, or he purposely played Franks with a Heisman QB on the bench. Everyone but Mullen knew that Trask deserved a chance. Now Mullen is playing EJ with AR on the bench. We all love EJ but it is clear that AR is a better player. If you don’t play the better player, the clearly better player, how will any 5 star ever come to UF knowing that even if they do everything they should and beat out the competition, they’ll never play. It’s amazing Trask didn’t leave. Seniority should be respected but you can’t win if you don’t play clearly better players. Urban would play his best 1st year players. I don’t think Mullen wants to put forth the effort to win. Mullen just doesn’t care. Fire Mullen unless Mullen changes. I’d love to have a Mullen who thumb wrestled everyone, but alas, Mullen doesn’t care if we lose to LSU and Oklahoma last year, and Kentucky this year. It’s always risky to change coaches, but if Mullen doesn’t change, we need to find another coach; the only problem is will the administration choose an excellent coach, or just another sorry one. Mullen needs to beat Georgia to just make him an average coaching job this year so far.
Charles
These articles of whether Mullen is on a hot seat need to stop. Stop feeding into the “right now” culture. Even older people fall victim to it. All you need to ask yourself is, is Florida football fun to cheer for, watch, and hope in? Is there a better alternative that will not set the program back in finances, development, and championships?
Personally for me. Florida Football hasn’t been this fun since the 2009 season. Before Spurrier it wasn’t this fun either.
I know Will wants to make money off his articles so he will continue to provide these type of articles to tickle the fancies of the “please me now” crowd. But I am glad Will knows better than to call for it this year, I am not on board for next year yet, but that’s a year away.
Will Miles
I’m getting the question, so I wrote the article. Whether you like it or not, there is a significant portion of the fan base that thinks he’s reached his ceiling and is looking at alternatives.
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Sir Charles, you pose two questions, which I shall answer individually below.
1) Is Florida football fun to cheer for, watch, and hope in?
I shall respond to this question with several questions of my own.
– Is losing to Kentucky fun to cheer for?
– Is giving up 300 rushing yards to LSU’s backup RB fun to watch?
-Is seeing Florida’s recruiting class drop to #35 in the country because their top two most highly rated recruits decomitted to flip to Georgia one week before the WLCOP something to hope in?
For me, and most of Gator Nation, the answer to those questions is a resounding NO!!!!!
2) Is there a better alternative that will not set the program back in finances, development, and championships?
YES. There absolutely is a better alternative, and he’s so close that it’s practically right under our noses.
First, before revealing who that is, I shall assert a few points regarding finances, development and championships under Dan Mullen.
– Finances: Dan Mullen is the third highest paid coach in the SEC ($7.6 million a year) behind Saban and Jimbo Fisher. What do those two have in common that Mullen does not? That’s right, a national championship ring (Saban at two schools). It’s easy to justify such a high salary for proven winners like them, but what about for a man who has coached in the SEC for over 14 years and has never won more than 11 games in a season and has lost 4 or more games in 10 of those 14 seasons?
Not to mention that To_ _ Grantham (because he has no “D”) rakes in nearly $2 million a year to field historically bad defenses year after year! Yes, what an excellent use of resources funding Dumb and Dumber to produce 7-5/8-4 seasons year after year.
– Development:Emory Jones has been in Mullen’s system since he got to Gainesville in 2018 and still hasn’t learned how to throw a forward pass successfully. A nice kid, yes indeed. I really like Emory as a person and hope he finds success. But Dan Mullen has completely failed him. Mullen, a supposed “qb whisperer” has not been able to successfully develop Emory into an FCS caliber qb, much less an SEC one, after 5 years of tutelage in his system.
– Championships: Is this one a joke? What championships have we won under Mullen? We haven’t even come close to sniffing the playoffs under him, much less come close to winning a championship. Heck, even Jim McElwain won the SEC East more times than Mullen, and he was only being paid $4 million a year.
Dan is charlatan and belongs in a trash can in Starkville, not in the office for the HBC in Gainesville.
Now, the Billion dollar question is who is the Trillion Dollar Man who can revive Florida Gator Football from the ashes left behind from Dan Mullen burning down this once illustrious program?
I direct your attention no further than to the SEC West, specifically to Oxford, Mississippi.
Thaaat’s riiiiiiight, the man with a plan to save Florida Gator Football is none other than LANE KIFFIN himself.
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Kathryn
You’ve got to be kidding. Al l we want is for Mullen to TRY. Last year he literally didn’t try against LSU or the bowl game. This year he literally didn’t try against Kentucky. We watched a LSU game two weeks ago where LSU who was in the 100s of running, ran all over UF. And that wasn’t the bad part, the bad part was LSU ran THE EXACT SAME PLAY and WE NEVER ADJUSTED. The national announcer was making fun of the Gators. Our defensive coaches should be immediately fired. HOW CAN YOU NOT ADJUST? Even if the adjustments don’t work, AT LEAST TRY!!!!! And the special teams are a joke. Besides AWFUL play this year that COST US GAMES, players don’t even know the rules. That is coaching. When the UF player just allowed the ball to roll out of bounds, the very next thing Mullen should have done was immediately fire the coach, and if was the player’s fault for not listening to the coach, then pull the player! But the special teams are atrocious. And Mullen doesn’t give a flip about recruiting. The recruits see Mullen going on vacation instead of visiting them and they know that Mullen doesn’t give a crap about recruiting. So yes, we don’t like Mullen, because Mullen doesn’t care about the Gator standard.
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Great article, though I believe it should be titled “Scott Stricklin is at a crossroads. Should fans give him more time?”
Besides the fiascos that are Florida men’s and women’s basketball, Florida football is free falling (maybe against Samford they’ll play that Tom Petty song instead of “won’t back down”).
Stricklin has done a poor job giving extensions and raises to unqualified football coaches. First MacElwain in 2016-17, which he luckily was able to get out of because Mac broke down and made up fake death threats. Then, after having worked with the guy for years at Miss State, he made the absolutely horrid decision to hire Dan Mullen, a man who he must’ve known had no business at a program of Florida’s caliber. Maybe it’s just a case of nepotism? And not only did he destroy the Florida Football program with this Flagrant Foul of a hire, he also alienated himself from his alma mater by poaching their head coach who was on the verge of coaching his most talented team at Miss State, thus making himself a pariah at Starkville. People there now regard Stricklin as a traitor. A lifelong reputation ruined in one phone call.
Regardless, Stricklin needs to clean up this mess he created at Florida, and he also needs to make right with his family back in Starkville after betraying them so coldly.
How could he do that?
Well, the answer is so simple that even Dan Mullen could figure out how to do it.
If Florida needs a great football coach, and Miss State fans were mad at Stricklin for poaching their coach, perhaps Stricklin can rectify the situation by poaching a great coach from Miss State’s most hated rival?
Thaaaaaat’s riiiiiiiiiiight! The answer is simply to poach LANE KIFFIN from Ole Miss to be the Head Ball Coach of the Florida Gators in 2022!
Problem solved, and he kills two birds with one stone.
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Johnny K
Kiffin is, and always will be, a pariah in Gainesville. Enough said. But, Mullen is not a Championship coach. 0-12 versus Alabama and nearly as bad against LSU tells the whole story. He just cant win the BIG game and couple that with at least 1 or 2 other scratch-your-head loses a year tells the whole story. He is a fabulous offensive coordinator but not a championship caliber head coach. He will never win a national championship much less an SEC title. Moreover, he is, at best, a mediocre recruiter. Not one member of his staff is in the top 50 of nation-wide recruiters. The real problem is, who is better and available? The second problem is that Stricklin is incapable of pulling the trigger even if someone was better and available. Look at the debacle that is both basketball programs.
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Johnny K,
You are spot on about Mullen. But we have a perfect championship caliber candidate at Ole Miss waiting for the UF job (reportedly his dream job) to open.
If the admin and suits don’t want him they can continue this carousel of hiring and firing mediocre coaches (like Muschamp, MacElwain, and Mullen) every 3-4 years and burn out AD’s every 4-8 years from having to go through the grind.
Lane kiffin has IT. He can be the next spurrier and be here for a long time while being the next urban by taking the programs to higher heights in a light speed timeline.
UF needs to dump Dan and get on the Lane Train or else they’ll be firing the next bozo (the one they hire after Mullen) in 2025!!
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Only Disney Gators believe that Dan Mullen is worth holding onto at this point. It’s clear to all objective fans that Dan Mullen is the problem with the Gators. Todd Grantham is just a symptom of this problem. If Mullen had built a culture of accountability and results, Grantham would’ve been sent packing before the pandemic hit. Mullen intentionally does just enough to not get fired but has no desire to win at the highest level.
Ken Smithmier, a judgement expert with P3 Insights who provides advice to the likes of Saban and other coaches and administrators throughout college football, said this about Dan Mullen:
“ Mullen’s profile is one that I run into a lot in successful executives. I describe it this way, there are people who are successful in spite of themselves and there are people who are successful because of themselves. Those who are successful in spite of themselves have success that is limited. I think Dan is a guy who’s success is going to always be in spite of himself. He thinks he is the smartest guy in the room. If he were an athlete, I think we would say he is a guy that does not take coaching well because when you think you are the smartest guy in the room, you don’t think you need that coaching. I personally would be surprised if he were to ever win a national championship.”
You know who Mr, Smithmeir thinks has the ability to be the next Nick Saban??
Thaaaaats riiiight LANE KIFFIN!!!!
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NO!!!!!
He’s been exposed as a fraud