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Is Florida stagnant?
Examining Billy Napier's recruiting two years in

Is Florida stagnant?

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“This is a Dan Mullen Recruiting class.”

I made that statement on last week’s episode of Gators Breakdown and a few fans reached out to say I was being unfair. Their contention was that I was putting too much emphasis on the Jaden Rashada saga and that Napier has made overall improvements even if recruiting isn’t where we want it to be.

Perhaps the most interesting criticism I received was that I was being purposefully negative “for clicks.” That amuses me for two reasons. First, experience has taught me that you definitively don’t get clicks by being negative about the program. Check out any of the mainstream Gator publications and you’ll figure out really quickly that they error on the side of being positive.

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But second, I hope that Napier really has made overall improvements in recruiting. I am a Florida alum and fan and I want the program to thrive. The problem is that when I look at the numbers, I don’t see any substantial improvement to justify that hope. And since this website isn’t close to my main source of income, I’m incentivized to tell you the truth rather than what generates clicks.

If you’re lost in the woods, a map doesn’t help you if you have no idea where you are. First you have to determine where you are so that you can determine a path to get out. So let’s take a look and find out where we are on the map before deciding to move forward.

The Sikes Standard

One of the pieces published on this site that I’m most proud of – and reference the most – wasn’t written by me. Back in 2018, colleague Bill Sikes looked at SEC coaches and what it took in their second, or “bump”, recruiting class to eventually win the conference. What he found was the following:

  • An increase of 8.2 spots in the national rankings
  • An increase of 2.3 spots in the conference rankings
  • An average of 2.3 5-star recruits
  • An average national ranking of 4.7
  • An average conference ranking of 2.3
  • An average of 16.8 blue-chips (4 or 5-star recruits)

That was the reason that I was perceived as negative when it came to Mullen’s second recruiting class. I gave it a solid ‘B’, but also stated that Kirby was going to have to keep calling ill-advised fake punts if Mullen couldn’t raise his recruiting to an ‘A’ level. Now that Kirby is sniffing out fake punts and calling timeouts prior in playoff games, that’s the level Florida needs.

But it isn’t what Florida is getting with Napier. In fact, Florida hasn’t gotten that in a while, which we see if we look at Florida’s last three coaches and their bump classes compared against the Sikes Standard.

Sikes Standard

So tell me again how this recruiting class is different than Mullen’s?

Yes, there is a higher player rating overall (91.87 vs. 90.56), but the national ranking is worse (13th to 9th), as is the conference ranking (6th to 5th). They both have the exact same number of blue chip recruits and fail to reach the standard everywhere else. And because just about every blue chip player out there signed in December, there isn’t much room to move anywhere but down by making additions prior to the February signing day.

There is more green in the Jim McElwain column, but that’s because his transition class was so poor. This is now essentially three straight Florida coaches with very similar results.

Grade Inflation

But there’s something else to consider here as well. When Bill was putting together his research, a blue-chip recruit was essentially a top-300 player. Consider that in 2007, Mike Pouncey was the 279th overall player in the country, but was considered a 3-star (i.e. non blue-chip) prospect.

This grade inflation has continued over the years for two reasons. First, I do think high school players are getting better as time goes on. But the other reason is that because it’s exciting to announce that you’ve signed a 4-star player and since a guy ranked 400th has about the same chance of succeeding as a guy ranked 300th, there’s little incentive not to extend out those rankings.

But the result is that “blue-chip” in 2023 doesn’t mean the same thing as in 2005, or even 2020. The past four years, the lowest blue-chip in the 247Sports composite has had the following national ranking:

  • 2020 – 373
  • 2021 – 400
  • 2022 – 426
  • 2023 – 438

What this really means to me is that you need to pick a defined bin of players (i.e. top-100 or top-300) for comparisons rather than just using the term “blue-chip” because that term means different things in different years.

I’m not going to go back over every SEC Championship coach in that time, but I do think it is instructive to make the comparison of Napier and Mullen’s first two recruiting classes because we know that Mullen’s classes weren’t enough.

Napier vs. Mullen recruiting

We’ll get to attrition in a minute, but on raw numbers on national signing day, Mullen beat Napier in every single category, whether it is top-100 players, top-300 players, number of commits, national ranking, conference ranking or average player ranking.

The only feather Napier has in his cap is that his 2023 recruiting class has a higher player rating than Mullen’s 2019 bump class, but Mullen had a better transition class, by far.

But what about attrition?

The minute you show a table like that, people get very upset because that 2019 Mullen class was boosted by Diwun Black (151st overall player), Deyavie Hammond (242) and Wardrick Wilson (372), none of whom made it to campus. Additionally, Jalon Jones (306) and Chris Steele (42) never made it to fall camp either.

All of that is true, of course. But you have to admit that it does feel a little bit like déjà vu with the departure of Jaden Rashada from this 2023 class. A California kid who commits but then doesn’t make it to fall camp is a familiar saga in Gainesville, just this time it’s at the most important position on the field and has a weird NIL controversy attached.

But let’s give this the best possible spin for Napier and Co. and look at his recruiting versus Mullen’s in the first two seasons without those five players.

Billy Napier vs. Dan Mullen recruiting

The loss of those five would have dropped Mullen’s transition class to 16th, but even with that, Mullen still ends up with a higher average player rating, a higher national rank, a higher conference ranking, more top-100 players and an equal number of players ranked between 100-300 in both of their first two classes. The only place that Napier wins is in total number of commits, but averaging 20 players per class really isn’t something to write home about.

You can argue that Napier’s bump class is slightly better than Mullen’s and I think you’re probably right. And given the success of Kamari Wilson, Shemar James and Trevor Etienne, it may just be that Napier is a better judge of talent overall.

But it’s difficult to make that determination at this point. Kyle Pitts (2018 class) started out slow, but turned into an absolute monster. Dameon Pierce made a similar impact (69 rush, 424 yards) to Etienne (118 for 719) in his freshman season. Richard Gouraige made 42 starts, including manning left tackle for the past two seasons.

Where we can make a determination at this point though is that while Napier has taken a different approach than Mullen, he hasn’t substantially upgraded the talent level of the roster over his two recruiting cycles thus far. That just doesn’t show up in the data.

Expectations

Of course, this has been in the cards for a while now.

I’ve written repeatedly about how the average player rating that you have heading into the season (end of August) usually plays out by the time national signing day comes (i.e. you sign more players, but rarely do you see a distinct bump in player quality). Below is the graph I showed when I wrote about it this past August.

Gators August Recruiting Roundup

This pretty much tells the story, as there is a lot of volatility in the average player rating prior to August but then the lines pretty much straighten out. Florida was at an average player rating of 91.86 heading into its season and stands at 91.87 right now.

Yes, the loss of Rashada does impact that (down from 92.12), but that difference is minimal. Rashada’s commitment was more significant because of his position on the field and how much Florida has struggled there than for the numerical addition to the class.

If it’s true that the quality of early commits portends where a class ends up, then that’s great news early on for Florida’s 2024 class. While the Gators only have three commits thus far, two of them are top-30 players (Myles Graham and DJ Lagway) and the third (RB Chauncey Bowens) is a top-300 player.

Certainly the class needs to be filled out, but Lagway and Graham are already ranked higher than any Napier recruits have been to this point. And Lagway is the QB that Gators fans hope will turn around the program in a big way (and is the only way the Gators win big with the 2022-2023 level of recruiting).

But that’s the thing about expectations. They don’t get any lighter now that we’ve gotten two recruiting classes in. The expectation at Florida is to win, and Napier is going to have to do that soon while also picking up things on the recruiting front.

I had sky high expectations for the 2023 class because the state of Florida was loaded.

Had Napier been able to get 25 players that he wanted within 150 miles of Gainesville, the class would have consisted of three 5-star players, seven top-100 players, and 10 players rated between 101-300. The average player rating would have been 93.17 (4th nationally) and generated 298 points (also 4th).

Essentially, he would have met the Sikes Standard easily.

Instead, Florida’s highest ranked recruit from the state is the 22nd best prospect (Aidan Mizell, 96th overall). There are seven 5-star recruits in the 2024 class from the state. Florida isn’t currently listed as a favorite for any of those seven.

If we’re talking about expectations and recruiting, that needs to change.

Takeaway

I actually went into this article thinking that the folks criticizing me were correct. I was being slightly hyperbolic when I called the 2023 class a “Mullen Class” because I have seen progress from the initial transition class to this one.

But the problem isn’t that Jaden Rashada is no longer in the fold. The problem is that the best way to evaluate recruiting is by evaluating a class, or classes, as a whole. When doing that for the first two years of the Dan Mullen and Billy Napier eras, you can’t escape the fact that the talent level in the program has not gone up.

I want to be clear that this doesn’t mean that Napier is doomed or that Florida will never beat Georgia. Florida was very good in the first three years of the Mullen era and beat Georgia as recently as 2020. But if the goal of the program is to consistently compete with Georgia and Alabama, that isn’t going to happen based on what’s been accomplished so far in the Napier era any better than it did during the Mullen one.

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And yes, Napier could use the transfer portal to rectify that situation. But you could say the same thing about Mullen, who hit with Van Jefferson, Trevon Grimes, Adam Shuler and Jonathan Greenard through the portal.

The problem with Mullen’s strategy was actually at QB. If you’re not going to recruit at a high level overall, you’d better bring in a bunch of QBs and have one pan out. Mullen got lucky and caught lightning in a bottle with Kyle Trask. But even though he signed at least one QB in every class that he brought in (Emory Jones in 2018, Jalon Jones in 2019, Anthony Richardson in 2020 and Carlos Del Rio-Wilson and Jalen Kitna in 2021), none of them became stars.

That’s really the issue with Graham Mertz coming in as a transfer. He might be a perfectly serviceable QB in Billy Napier’s offense. But serviceable only works when you’re Kelly Bryant with a stacked Clemson defense.

Florida needs a star at the position. Whether that’s Mertz, Max Brown, Jack Miller or eventually D.J. Lagway, Napier has to hit.

Because the numbers say that the talent level in Gainesville right now is at the exact same level as it was under Dan Mullen.

16 Comments

  1. Joe Friday

    Again, you don’t seem to have a grasp on what football is. It’s not graphs and numbers. It’s coaching and blocky and tackling. Why has Florida been 6-7 the past two years? It’s not because of graphs and numbers, or the number of “blue chip” players. Does UF have more “talent”, according to you, than the teams they played both years? You keep bringing up Georgia, but they’re totally irrelevant to how Florida has played. How about Vandy, South Carolina, FSU, & Missouri? UF spilt the games between them. Yet, according to your numbers, graphs, etc. UF waas far ahead in “talent.” How about the teams UF lost both games to? Georgia, Kentucky, and LSU? There’s a clear talent gap, according to you, between UF and Kentucky. Same with Georgia. Just in different directions, but the result was exactly the same, Florida got whipped by both. LSU is closer to the same talent level, but Florida still got beat by them both times.
    The difference wasn’t the level talent. The Duffy was blocking and tackling and coaching. Now you claim Florida will be “very good” in 2022. Why? Is the QB going to be better than the overhyped Anthony Richardson or the mediocre Emory Jones? Is the offensive line going to be better after losing the only All SEC First or Second team player on either side of the ball, according to the official All SEC team named by the SEC? Is there a single player that looks like they’ll become an All SEC player on either side of the ball in 2023? The only possibility I realistically see is Trevor Etienne based on his performance last season.
    Has there been a chance in coaches or an upgrade in proven talent from the transfer portal? Is Florida suddenly going to have a great passing attack? Did Napier even try to upgrade the tight end room, for example? Or did he try and just fail miserably? Is there a single valid reason to think the defense will stop being mediocre? Is there a new hotshot defensive coordinator, like a Mike Elmo who’s now the head coach at Duke?
    Finally you claim that going the route of using the transfer portal is seeking “false gold” etc. What do you base that in, especially the way the transfer portal is now much, much more different than it’s ever been? I think you’re just an old dog that can’t learn new tricks with that Neanderthal outlook. It’s obvious that Napier disagrees since he’s now plucked ten players from the transfer portal, with , I bet, more to come. I just don’t think he’s done a very good job at it, though. Instead of getting proven players, the majority he’s signed have been unproven that have “potential.” I don’t understand that and, personally, would only choose players who were proven starters, even if at a Group of Five school.
    In closing, for someone who’s obsessed with numbers, graphs, etc., I can’t imagine how you’ve twisted yourself into believing that Floria will be “very good” in 2023. There’s no evidence that Napier has changed anything from what he did last year, from coaches to philosophy. Pray tell me a reason to drink the same Kool-Aid you have?

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      Will Miles

      You’re buildling a straw man argument that isn’t my assertion. I just published an article (the very one before this) explaining why it shouldn’t be a surprise when Kentucky or even Vandy beats Florida given their levels of recruiting.

    • Johnny Saturday

      Wow, Joe Friday has a case of the Mondays. Best of luck with your diaper rash.

    • Tiffany

      Joe,
      I am with you in bemoaning our fate. We hired CBN to recruit well and that hasn’t happened. We didn’t see great coaching or player development last year (something CDM was good at). We saw the defense slide backwards (a feat deemed nearly impossible a year ago). This gives me all the worries for next season.

      I have been reading Will’s articles almost since the inception of his site. Will is a Gators fan first, but he isn’t blind. The hopefuls in this article aren’t stated as fact, they are simply the only way to win. Hit via the transfer portal will up our chances of winning games. That doesn’t mean Napier has checked that box. Mertz turns out to be better in a different offense is hopeful, not fact. Will wants the Gators to win, but his analysis suggests we probably won’t significantly outperform last year. He is just trying to look at it with data and not feelings. He writes hopeful articles because those are better than doom and gloom, but that doesn’t mean he has complete faith the problems will be addressed.

      Will, thanks for the insightful article. I always appreciate your work and read all of your articles. I have quoted Sikes’ articles to my family and friends for years.

    • Douglas

      Where is there anywhere in this article that says we will be good in 2023? It sounds more like it is being said get used to the same crap we have been seeing since 2010, because that is where we are. Football is about talent and coaching. Talent we have been the same for the past decade. Coaching well offensively there was nothing out of the game plans in 2022 that gives me hope for 2023.. Defensively we couldbt scheme worse that 2021, but we also lacked the talent and depth to do much when the offense couldn’t stay on the field.

  2. Damian

    Will, how do you factor in two things, NIL’s impact on today’s recruiting versus the past and Mullen’s grasping at ranked players who didn’t pan out once they arrived but still stayed at UF? Attrition in a different form. We’ve come to be obsessed with the second year analysis, but this rebuild seems bigger than that. I believe UF’s bigger issue is coaching on the D side of the ball. Toney is not the guy. Will Napier suffer the same ailment as Mullen and refuse to get rid of a guy who isn’t getting it done? Grantham was a bad hire – he turned out to be exactly who we knew he was based on his prior tenure at MSU and UGA…I bounced around here but I think you get my point. Recruiting and coaching yet again will bring us down or help us win. I for one think recruiting is headed in the right direction – as long as we can retain that ‘24 class, Lagway and Bowens are drawing intense attention from Miami and Bama, to name two…does Ruiz run at Lagway and challenge the seemingly incompetent Gator Collective (and others?)

  3. Timothy Rockwell

    Will,
    First, I generally like your by the numbers information because it does allow you to look at things without bias for wanting success or as the 247 page says “sunshine pumping.” However, there is something I feel your numbers are missing….and that’s “CULTURE.” I won’t argue that by the numbers, the classes are very similar, but this class has a unity that I never saw from Mullen’s classes. There is also discipline and accountability that this staff leads with. Lastly, when looking at the positional strength, Napier has done a better job at recruiting DL and OL. We all know that the SEC is a line of scrimmage league. Keep doing what you’re doing, but remember, you won’t win many subscribers comparing Napier to Mullen.

    • Douglas

      I agree there needs to be a culture change after Mullen, but what have we seen to this point that suggests a better culture? Napier after loses sounds like a cross between Muschamp and Mullen. Will get it fixed while also saying look what I was left with. Other than line play, which was a vast improvement over the previous regime. What can you point to and see vast improvement?

  4. I want to agree with you. However, even though I am so disappointed in Napier and can go on and on about why, 2023 recruiting UF has the 6th highest avg player ranking. That’s almost good enough to win a championship. Of course, the bump class may be his best. However, if he can somehow improve over time (right now his 2024 average player ranking is #2), there still is a chance. [I don’t care about numbers, I care about player average, you only put your best 11 players out there at a time.] A previous commenter is correct, you have to coach your players to perform. So far, Napier has been a disaster. We only played three teams with better talent. It’s up to Napier to coach and motivate his players. Spurrier ALWAYS took the blame when the players weren’t coached up correctly. Napier needs to fix everything else about the program, and just slightly improve the recruiting.

  5. Stuart

    I think NIL is playing a much bigger role now that it is being given credit for. Coach Nap and every coach of a top team that wasn’t already near the top (ie Georgia and Alabama) are dealing with issues that have not been the usual. Now throw in the free wheeling transfer portal and it really gets crazy. Frankly, I think, as a dedicated Gator fan, all my life (I’m 63), I see us on the same type of trajectory as FSU. They have had some tough years, but are now climbing out of it and ascending. I think Coach Nap may have started with more talent, but the “locker room” atmosphere was toxic and the discipline level so unexpectedly low, that he has had to work much harder to put out the dumpster fire that was so hot the dumpster was melting. Throw in a top QB with kiddie porn issues and another not smart enough to know when not to post a video of his sing a long and you have a near “perfect storm”. And the whole Rashada thing is just wierd and not even in the coach’s wheel house since coaches can’t have anything to do with NIL. So, I’ll give Coach Nap 4 full years of building, something else unexpected not withstanding, before I throw in the towel on him. I like what he is doing, even though I think he is working through a learning curve of his own. Love your articles, ’cause I love reading more than watching or listening.

  6. Gary Keith

    Interesting article. I think it’s just too early to know. We haven’t seen how good, or bad his transition class is, except for a couple of guys. We have no idea how this full class will turn out. We are just left with “hope” that Napiers’ evaluation proves the class rankings wrong. As always, with new coaches, something happens in year 3 that provides clarity.

  7. Douglas

    I agree there needs to be a culture change after Mullen, but what have we seen to this point that suggests a better culture? Napier after loses sounds like a cross between Muschamp and Mullen. Will get it fixed while also saying look what I was left with. Other than line play, which was a vast improvement over the previous regime. What can you point to and see vast improvement?

  8. Hal

    I’m curious as to if the class would have been better if NIL weren’t a factor. Would we still have gotten Rashada? He was high on us in the summer before he committed to Miami because of NIL. What about McClain? He seemed to be high on us also before he committed to Miami maybe because of NIL? Would they have stuck in the long run? Who else did we miss out on supposedly because of NIL? I think we need a few more years of data for this NIL era. Will it be hard to compare recruiting results with the pre-NIL era? We shall see.

  9. Spike

    I think it is a new world with the transfer portal, NIL, and early signing day. I think you (Will) or Sikes will need to start tracking data as of 2022 or 2023 and onward and compile new data and see what trends and stats has the end results of playoffs and championships and the 12 team playoff may or may not be another year 0 for data. One could say in the NIL era that Bama is a failure since we inky have one year of data and they missed the playoffs. But that ain’t fair, gonna need years and years before seeing what data matters.

  10. Fred Fartblossom

    You never once mentioned NIL which renders your entire article wiry.

  11. John gibbons

    Will, thanks for the data analysis that you’ve provided multiple times. We, your readers, have heard and digested it. It is straight forward and objective facts as they stand.

    I agree with those earlier respondents that mentioned 2 factors, evaluations and culture development/ sustainability. CBN brought 3 studs in with him last year and ad piersall in the spring. All 4 are SEC caliber. So I have to give him the benefit of this class and this fall production. I’ve watched 4 games of Graham Mertz and he had nothing but 3rd and longs within the Wisconsin scheme, CBN said we evaluated 24 qbs and this is the guy that’s here. Specifically he said time will tell about his productivity, as well as the others.

    Secondly, the culture. CDM was a quitter! He folded and gave LSU a win when he held Pitts out, then led off the staff meeting re: the Cotton Bowl by saying ‘we’re approaching this game and practice time like it’s a spring game.’ The kids got the message, he’s throwing in the towel and that’s how we’ll play. The consequences, OU beat our tail! That culture carried over and when they lost to Bama early the next season they mailed it in, just like CDM. If you think changing that culture is easy, then I’ve got swamp land for you.

    Yes, he needs Jimmy and Joe’s, but the mail it in culture takes 2-3 recruiting classes and attrition of those unwilling to go along the new direction. I worked in a culture rebuild of a mid-major athletic program, it took 4-5 years to change the vibes in the locker rooms. When we did it lasted, and have won 9 NCAA championships since. And as went along we got our share of Jimmy and Joe’s.

    Appreciate your data, and all it represents. Yet, team chemistry and will to win (resiliency + relentless) in the locker room maybe as important, if not more so in the rebuild phase.

    Go Gators!